Comments on: We Need To Kill The Sidebar http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/ Experiments in Theme Design Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:21:22 +0000 By: Ian Stewart http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1828 Ian Stewart Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:20:47 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1828 I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick with <em>Aside</em> when I'm marking things up. Just in case I decide not to use widgets for any reason. I’m pretty sure I’m going to stick with Aside when I’m marking things up. Just in case I decide not to use widgets for any reason.

]]> By: Gerro http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1827 Gerro Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:16:40 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1827 "Widget Block" is a nice term. It kind of functions like that. One of my previous themes had a single column for the content (no side bar). I used the get_sidebar() function for my "Widget Block" on the footer. “Widget Block” is a nice term. It kind of functions like that. One of my previous themes had a single column for the content (no side bar). I used the get_sidebar() function for my “Widget Block” on the footer.

]]> By: Ian Stewart http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1691 Ian Stewart Sat, 17 May 2008 14:20:30 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1691 As long as they're not sidebars! ;) Vanilla is going to be huge, by the way. As long as they’re not sidebars! ;)

Vanilla is going to be huge, by the way.

]]> By: Alister Cameron // B http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1690 Alister Cameron // B Sat, 17 May 2008 14:00:46 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1690 Ian, I call them "widget blocks" in my Vanilla theme (yeah it's there somewhere, but I've been flat out for ages with business stuff). Great post! -Alister Alister Cameron // Blogologist www.alistercameron.com Ian,

I call them “widget blocks” in my Vanilla theme (yeah it’s there somewhere, but I’ve been flat out for ages with business stuff).

Great post!

-Alister

Alister Cameron // Blogologist http://www.alistercameron.com

]]> By: John A http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1503 John A Thu, 01 May 2008 10:40:53 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1503 District, Ward, Card all seem like reasonable words to replace "sidebar" District, Ward, Card all seem like reasonable words to replace “sidebar”

]]> By: Ian Stewart http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1470 Ian Stewart Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:09:25 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1470 Thanks for the feedback everybody. I really hope WordPress picks up on this. <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/topic.php?id=1384" rel="nofollow">Don't forget to vote!</a> Besides, the WordPress Ideas forum is kinda fun. And by the way, I just noticed I lost some comments on this post when I switched hosts. David Yeiser had linked to the very cool post from Jon Tan (with the very cool and amazingly CSS-only logo in his homepage header) on <a href="http://jontangerine.com/log/2008/03/preparing-for-html5-with-semantic-class-names" rel="nofollow">HTML 5</a> which led to me adopting the class name of "aside". Sorry about that. And sorry to, I think Circle Reader, and anyone else who's comment I lost. Thanks for the feedback everybody. I really hope WordPress picks up on this. Don’t forget to vote! Besides, the WordPress Ideas forum is kinda fun.

And by the way, I just noticed I lost some comments on this post when I switched hosts. David Yeiser had linked to the very cool post from Jon Tan (with the very cool and amazingly CSS-only logo in his homepage header) on HTML 5 which led to me adopting the class name of “aside”. Sorry about that. And sorry to, I think Circle Reader, and anyone else who’s comment I lost.

]]> By: Elliot Jay Stocks http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1469 Elliot Jay Stocks Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:39:27 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1469 Very well said, Ian. The totally non-semantic naming of the sidebar is still confusing people, and - as you rightly suggest - limiting the potential of theming. Very well said, Ian. The totally non-semantic naming of the sidebar is still confusing people, and - as you rightly suggest - limiting the potential of theming.

]]> By: Jermayn http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1450 Jermayn Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:04:56 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1450 Yeah I think teh problem is not so as much the widgets but rather the way the websites have been designed. Fix the design problems and the solution will come. Yeah I think teh problem is not so as much the widgets but rather the way the websites have been designed. Fix the design problems and the solution will come.

]]> By: Myo Kyaw Htun http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1439 Myo Kyaw Htun Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:54:26 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1439 You're right, Ian. We hope more those flexible things from upcoming Wordpress releases. You’re right, Ian. We hope more those flexible things from upcoming Wordpress releases.

]]> By: Ruan http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1437 Ruan Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:14:13 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1437 phpweblog did this in what 1999? phpweblog did this in what 1999?

]]> By: DameryWorld http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1431 DameryWorld Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:56:34 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1431 I have been doing it too. I have created a plugin for the blog loop and then built a theme with all "sidebar" widgets. We should just call them WA's Widget areas and then give them proper WA names like content, footer, ads, etc. With the blog plugin I can just drag n drop where I want the blog loop to be ... then we get to where we should be and that is creating plugins to drop and drag content around the web page... I have been doing it too. I have created a plugin for the blog loop and then built a theme with all “sidebar” widgets. We should just call them WA’s Widget areas and then give them proper WA names like content, footer, ads, etc.

With the blog plugin I can just drag n drop where I want the blog loop to be … then we get to where we should be and that is creating plugins to drop and drag content around the web page…

]]> By: Bryan http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1428 Bryan Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:53:15 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1428 I agree with you Ian. But unfortunately the new widget interface in 2.5 makes moving widgets between sidebars MUCH more tedious. I'm all for seeing more modular themes, completely widgetized, but I can't IMAGINE maintaining such a site with the new 2.5 widget interface. If my layout was that extensible I'd HAVE to be able to see all my widgetized areas on the same page and be able to drag and drop between them. I agree with you Ian. But unfortunately the new widget interface in 2.5 makes moving widgets between sidebars MUCH more tedious. I’m all for seeing more modular themes, completely widgetized, but I can’t IMAGINE maintaining such a site with the new 2.5 widget interface.

If my layout was that extensible I’d HAVE to be able to see all my widgetized areas on the same page and be able to drag and drop between them.

]]> By: Widgetize This!: Taking full advantage of WordPress 2.5's widget interface http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1426 Widgetize This!: Taking full advantage of WordPress 2.5's widget interface Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:45:24 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1426 [...] Stewart just created the “we need to kill the sidebar bandwagon,” and it’s about time you all hopped [...] […] Stewart just created the “we need to kill the sidebar bandwagon,” and it’s about time you all hopped […]

]]> By: David Yeiser http://themeshaper.com/we-need-to-kill-the-sidebar/#comment-1424 David Yeiser Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:45:14 +0000 http://themeshaper.com/?p=65#comment-1424 Totally agree, Ian. Maybe it should follow HTML 5 nomenclature like "section" or "aside"? Totally agree, Ian. Maybe it should follow HTML 5 nomenclature like “section” or “aside”?

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